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	<title>Comments on: Review - TuneRanger</title>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TobyF: Sounds like what you are looking for is a music server like Firefly where both the database+metadata and the media files are on a server. TuneRanger support a hybrid solution where the iTunes library+playlists+metadata are local to multiple clients but the bulk of the contents, the media files, are centrally located on a server. For iTunes users who buy DRM'd media this is the only realistic way to go at this time until Apple redesigns the database to support multiple simlutaneous iTunes clients opening a central database. Until then, syncing the local databases without unnecessarily duplicating the media files with something like TuneRanger is the only way to go as far as I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TobyF: Sounds like what you are looking for is a music server like Firefly where both the database+metadata and the media files are on a server. TuneRanger support a hybrid solution where the iTunes library+playlists+metadata are local to multiple clients but the bulk of the contents, the media files, are centrally located on a server. For iTunes users who buy DRM&#8217;d media this is the only realistic way to go at this time until Apple redesigns the database to support multiple simlutaneous iTunes clients opening a central database. Until then, syncing the local databases without unnecessarily duplicating the media files with something like TuneRanger is the only way to go as far as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Manny</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Kwon: "will TuneRanger sync the iTunes library file"
That's what it does. It also syncs the media files if they are not there. If multiple iTunes point to a common share on a NAS or server then the media files would be there and they would not be copied. NO file duplication.

Q: Will TuneRanger sync iTunes libraries and playlists that use a common share on a server or a NAS without duplicating files on the NAS?
A: The answer is yes as long as all sync clients in the group point to the network share in exactly the same way. The key is in the iTunes preference setting iTunes-&#62;Preferences-&#62;Advanced-&#62;General-&#62;iTunes Music folder location which must point to the shared directory containing all the music and video files on the NAS. This setting must be the same for all iTunes libraries to be synchronized. Another critical setting is "Keep iTunes Music folder organized" which must be checked ON for everything to work properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Kwon: &#8220;will TuneRanger sync the iTunes library file&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s what it does. It also syncs the media files if they are not there. If multiple iTunes point to a common share on a NAS or server then the media files would be there and they would not be copied. NO file duplication.</p>
<p>Q: Will TuneRanger sync iTunes libraries and playlists that use a common share on a server or a NAS without duplicating files on the NAS?<br />
A: The answer is yes as long as all sync clients in the group point to the network share in exactly the same way. The key is in the iTunes preference setting iTunes-&gt;Preferences-&gt;Advanced-&gt;General-&gt;iTunes Music folder location which must point to the shared directory containing all the music and video files on the NAS. This setting must be the same for all iTunes libraries to be synchronized. Another critical setting is &#8220;Keep iTunes Music folder organized&#8221; which must be checked ON for everything to work properly.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyF</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>TobyF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links, Clay. They do seem to be for something slightly different: synchronizing music between two computers, rather than having two computers access a shared library.

This is a classic problem that a database server handles very well. None of the solutions I've found take that approach, so my guess is a good solution doesn't exist yet. Other solutions are possible, perhaps something like what revision checking systems use (RCS, CVS, Subversion), where files are checked in and out.  Hmm, that might work well.

For your problem of synchronizing music and folders, you might just use a general backup utility like SuperDuper, which does that quite well.  It wouldn't read the MP3 metadata, but the important stuff is kinda built into the file structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links, Clay. They do seem to be for something slightly different: synchronizing music between two computers, rather than having two computers access a shared library.</p>
<p>This is a classic problem that a database server handles very well. None of the solutions I&#8217;ve found take that approach, so my guess is a good solution doesn&#8217;t exist yet. Other solutions are possible, perhaps something like what revision checking systems use (RCS, CVS, Subversion), where files are checked in and out.  Hmm, that might work well.</p>
<p>For your problem of synchronizing music and folders, you might just use a general backup utility like SuperDuper, which does that quite well.  It wouldn&#8217;t read the MP3 metadata, but the important stuff is kinda built into the file structure.</p>
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		<title>By: clay</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want to sync libraries with a mac and pc. just wondering what happens if i change metadata within both at different times eg bpm in the mac and add artwork in the pc. does one override and delete the other or can they merge?

has anyone seen this review of several other syncing apps?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/147932/sync_your_itunes_libraries.html

https://www.socketheadstudios.com/mytunesync/faq.html

http://www.sonzea.com/syncopation/

http://www.martian.com/SlingShot.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to sync libraries with a mac and pc. just wondering what happens if i change metadata within both at different times eg bpm in the mac and add artwork in the pc. does one override and delete the other or can they merge?</p>
<p>has anyone seen this review of several other syncing apps?<br />
<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/147932/sync_your_itunes_libraries.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcworld.com/article/147932/sync_your_itunes_libraries.html</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.socketheadstudios.com/mytunesync/faq.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.socketheadstudios.com/mytunesync/faq.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sonzea.com/syncopation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonzea.com/syncopation/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.martian.com/SlingShot.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.martian.com/SlingShot.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Kwon</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Kwon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow looks like a wiki needs to be started on this topic alone.

Wondering if someone can provide insight.

Wife has a PC, I have a Mac. All our music is on a network drive in our home, and both our iTunes is setup to read/save music files onto the same Network Drive.

At initial import everything is fine, but if I buy a song or if she buys a song, the other iTunes library does not get updated because iTunes doesn't have a "Watch Folders" options (seriously why isn't this available).

So we have one copy of music, accessible on each iTunes. We don't use "shared" libraries because we can't manage our iPod music from a shared library, and we both want to do it on our own computers.

So the big question, will TuneRanger sync the iTunes library file? Or will it try to re-copy the music from machine to machine which seems like it would screw up everything by creating tons of duplicates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow looks like a wiki needs to be started on this topic alone.</p>
<p>Wondering if someone can provide insight.</p>
<p>Wife has a PC, I have a Mac. All our music is on a network drive in our home, and both our iTunes is setup to read/save music files onto the same Network Drive.</p>
<p>At initial import everything is fine, but if I buy a song or if she buys a song, the other iTunes library does not get updated because iTunes doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;Watch Folders&#8221; options (seriously why isn&#8217;t this available).</p>
<p>So we have one copy of music, accessible on each iTunes. We don&#8217;t use &#8220;shared&#8221; libraries because we can&#8217;t manage our iPod music from a shared library, and we both want to do it on our own computers.</p>
<p>So the big question, will TuneRanger sync the iTunes library file? Or will it try to re-copy the music from machine to machine which seems like it would screw up everything by creating tons of duplicates.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaskan</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaskan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pretty sure it will do this--when I lost my foreign language songs, I was trying to consolidate two external drives--one of about 250 GB and another of about 750GB--and an internal drive onto a larger external drive.  It seemed to work as far as consolidating them goes, except that I lost a lot of foreign language songs (as mentioned above, Tune Ranger said they were corrupted files).  It also took several days for the process to run (which would be expected, if you think about the size of the files).

My problem was that I ran out of space for the consolidated file (in the end, it exceeded the size of any hard drive that I had available) so I ended up stopping the full consolidation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure it will do this&#8211;when I lost my foreign language songs, I was trying to consolidate two external drives&#8211;one of about 250 GB and another of about 750GB&#8211;and an internal drive onto a larger external drive.  It seemed to work as far as consolidating them goes, except that I lost a lot of foreign language songs (as mentioned above, Tune Ranger said they were corrupted files).  It also took several days for the process to run (which would be expected, if you think about the size of the files).</p>
<p>My problem was that I ran out of space for the consolidated file (in the end, it exceeded the size of any hard drive that I had available) so I ended up stopping the full consolidation.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1538</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is, will it consolidate huge, external drive based, libraries of song files (with no language issues)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is, will it consolidate huge, external drive based, libraries of song files (with no language issues)</p>
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		<title>By: Alaskan</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaskan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried using Tune Ranger to consolidate my library, and ran into a big problem:  It does not read foreign language files, so it "read" all my Japanese pop songs as being defective.  I had told the software to delete defective files, so I lost all my music.  So if you have any non-English tunes in your library, be careful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried using Tune Ranger to consolidate my library, and ran into a big problem:  It does not read foreign language files, so it &#8220;read&#8221; all my Japanese pop songs as being defective.  I had told the software to delete defective files, so I lost all my music.  So if you have any non-English tunes in your library, be careful!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1536</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have about 5 hard drives of songs..id like to consolifate on a one T drive and use on itumnes...will TR help me consolidate the 150,000 plus songs, remove duplicates, etc on the one drive that would be my itunes source??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have about 5 hard drives of songs..id like to consolifate on a one T drive and use on itumnes&#8230;will TR help me consolidate the 150,000 plus songs, remove duplicates, etc on the one drive that would be my itunes source??</p>
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		<title>By: lance</title>
		<link>http://www.macsparky.com/2008/02/09/review-tuneranger/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've downloaded the trial but can't get my macbook pro to find my new imac though they are connected through my wireless time capsule network .I have file sharing on.I tried connecting them directly with an ethernet cable but still no luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve downloaded the trial but can&#8217;t get my macbook pro to find my new imac though they are connected through my wireless time capsule network .I have file sharing on.I tried connecting them directly with an ethernet cable but still no luck</p>
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