OmniOutliner for iPad Review

The day the Omni Group releases a new iPad app always feels a little bit like productivity-nerd Christmas. There is always a lot of anticipation leading up to the event and, despite having spent far too much time thinking about how the Omni UI wizards will go about it, you always find a few unexpected surprises. With today’s release of OmniOutliner for iPad ($20), the Christmas metaphor holds up.

Last year, no sooner did we get OmniFocus installed than we all immediately started clamoring for OmniOutliner. So now it is here. How does OmniOutliner stack up against are expectations? I’ve been using the app through the beta and report the Omni Group delivered, again.

Interface and Iteration

What puts the Omni Group applications above others is their unwillingness to accept “good enough.” The Omni Group spends a lot of time getting the touch interface right. With each new iPad app, they realize they are blazing a trail. They generally throw out all the assumptions made with building an interface for a traditional keyboard and mouse and start over. OmniOutliner is not a simple port of the Mac OS X app. Instead, it is a ground up, outlining application built around the iPad’s strengths (and weaknesses).

Outlining

Outlining real simple. Type an entry and then use the arrow icon buttons at the bottom of the screen to promote or demote entries. For speed outlining, that is it. No magic incantations or multiple button taps. Type the words. Set the level. Move on.

To type on a line, double tap it. A curser drops in and the iPad on-screen keyboard jumps to life. Once done editing, tap the row handle to the left and OmniOutliner exits edit mode. The row handles also include icons to display row level. Any rows without children appear as a dot. Rows with children have an oversized disclosure triangle. Tapping the triangle will collapse and expand the children points below it. OmniOutliner also includes the ability to add notes in an option text field below individual entries. This is one of the Mac OS X features that came over to iPad and it is damn useful.

Tapping the Edit button brings up a series of editing tools to move, group, and delete individual entries. Even easier though is grabbing and moving the row handles and moving manually.

Columns and Customization

It wouldn’t be OmniOutliner without columns and the iPad iteration delivers. You can add columns of various formats including text, numbers, date, duration, pop-up list, and checkboxes. Everything is intuitive and creating and styling new columns is easy. With certain formats, like numbers, OmniOutliner will optionally perform a math functions providing totals, averages, minimum and maximum values, and additional functions.

There is a lot of customization available under the hood. Tapping the Tools icon button opens a popover that lets you set styles and view for the entire document or the current selection. You can also create custom styles for certain outline levels. The screenshot, for instance set a tan background, bold typeface, and numbering for the level one entries.

One of the many nice touches are the built in color schemes. The color picker includes a series of custom palettes. These are the same color options available in the iPad OmniGraffle app and much better than those available in the Mac OS X color picker.

Document Management

Document management is handled in the document view. This app feels a lot like Apple’s iWork apps in this regard. You flick between documents and tap one to open it. There are also options to open documents from iDisk or a WebDAV server. There is no Dropbox access. The Omni Group explained that they are still exploring ways to make online sync better. However, if you really need that Dropbox sync, you can use a DropDAV account and access your Dropbox files via WebDAV. You can also export outlines to iDisk, WebDAV, and iTunes or send them as a mail attachment. Export options include the OmniOutliner format, HTML (both simple and dynamic), plain text, and my beloved OPML.

Summary

When the iPad was first announced, OmniOutliner was one of those apps that I thought would be perfect for it. I often use outlines for brainstorming and organizing thoughts. I also use OmniOutliner to take depositions and prepare witness examinations. Furthermore, every one of the last fifty episodes of the Mac Power Users started life as an OmniOutline. I miss the templates available in OmniOutliner Pro on my Mac and native Dropbox support would have been nice but I’ve been using the iPad OmniOutliner exclusively for a month and the iPad has supplanted my Mac as my “go to” outlining device. Like mind mapping, outlining really lends itself to the touch interface. The Omni Group just “gets” the iPad and it is no surprise that they nailed it again with OmniOutliner for iPad.

103 Comments OmniOutliner for iPad Review

  1. mail@everythingaboutapple.com

    Big, big pity about dropbox, very close to a deal breaker – simply for the opml transfer to scrivener – but as they spend so much time getting their products just right, and I love OO on the mac, I'll snap it up.

    I can't help wondering why it is Omni don't like dropbox, all I can think of is maybe 1.security 2.longevity (support) 3.speed, but to me it seems a lot faster then Mobile me, or 4. maybe Cupertino is coming up with something

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  2. mail@everythingaboutapple.com

    Big, big pity about dropbox, very close to a deal breaker – simply for the opml transfer to scrivener – but as they spend so much time getting their products just right, and I love OO on the mac, I'll snap it up.

    I can't help wondering why it is Omni don't like dropbox, all I can think of is maybe 1.security 2.longevity (support) 3.speed, but to me it seems a lot faster then Mobile me, or 4. maybe Cupertino is coming up with something

    Reply
  3. mail@everythingaboutapple.com

    Big, big pity about dropbox, very close to a deal breaker – simply for the opml transfer to scrivener – but as they spend so much time getting their products just right, and I love OO on the mac, I'll snap it up.

    I can't help wondering why it is Omni don't like dropbox, all I can think of is maybe 1.security 2.longevity (support) 3.speed, but to me it seems a lot faster then Mobile me, or 4. maybe Cupertino is coming up with something

    Reply
  4. mail@everythingaboutapple.com

    Big, big pity about dropbox, very close to a deal breaker – simply for the opml transfer to scrivener – but as they spend so much time getting their products just right, and I love OO on the mac, I'll snap it up.

    I can't help wondering why it is Omni don't like dropbox, all I can think of is maybe 1.security 2.longevity (support) 3.speed, but to me it seems a lot faster then Mobile me, or 4. maybe Cupertino is coming up with something

    Reply
  5. mail@everythingaboutapple.com

    Big, big pity about dropbox, very close to a deal breaker – simply for the opml transfer to scrivener – but as they spend so much time getting their products just right, and I love OO on the mac, I'll snap it up.

    I can't help wondering why it is Omni don't like dropbox, all I can think of is maybe 1.security 2.longevity (support) 3.speed, but to me it seems a lot faster then Mobile me, or 4. maybe Cupertino is coming up with something

    Reply
  6. seanesutton@me.com

    Love the app and used it all day.

    The one problem I had is exporting. With OO on the mac I am able to export to docx for PC users in the office for editing.

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  7. seanesutton@me.com

    Love the app and used it all day.

    The one problem I had is exporting. With OO on the mac I am able to export to docx for PC users in the office for editing.

    Reply
  8. seanesutton@me.com

    Love the app and used it all day.

    The one problem I had is exporting. With OO on the mac I am able to export to docx for PC users in the office for editing.

    Reply
  9. seanesutton@me.com

    Love the app and used it all day.

    The one problem I had is exporting. With OO on the mac I am able to export to docx for PC users in the office for editing.

    Reply
  10. seanesutton@me.com

    Love the app and used it all day.

    The one problem I had is exporting. With OO on the mac I am able to export to docx for PC users in the office for editing.

    Reply
  11. timwindsor@gmail.com

    I was ready to buy until I saw the lack of Dropbox support.

    At this point, if an app that deals with text doesn't support Dropbox, it doesn't exist for me.

    Looking forward to 1.1.

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  12. timwindsor@gmail.com

    I was ready to buy until I saw the lack of Dropbox support.

    At this point, if an app that deals with text doesn't support Dropbox, it doesn't exist for me.

    Looking forward to 1.1.

    Reply
  13. timwindsor@gmail.com

    I was ready to buy until I saw the lack of Dropbox support.

    At this point, if an app that deals with text doesn't support Dropbox, it doesn't exist for me.

    Looking forward to 1.1.

    Reply
  14. timwindsor@gmail.com

    I was ready to buy until I saw the lack of Dropbox support.

    At this point, if an app that deals with text doesn't support Dropbox, it doesn't exist for me.

    Looking forward to 1.1.

    Reply
  15. timwindsor@gmail.com

    I was ready to buy until I saw the lack of Dropbox support.

    At this point, if an app that deals with text doesn't support Dropbox, it doesn't exist for me.

    Looking forward to 1.1.

    Reply
  16. scottybee@gmail.com

    WebDAV server use is spotty for me. Outliner doesn't seem to remember the credentials, so you have to enter them every time you want to upload. I agree that Omni normal delivers high quality software. I wonder why their synching is such a fail.

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  17. scottybee@gmail.com

    WebDAV server use is spotty for me. Outliner doesn't seem to remember the credentials, so you have to enter them every time you want to upload. I agree that Omni normal delivers high quality software. I wonder why their synching is such a fail.

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  18. scottybee@gmail.com

    WebDAV server use is spotty for me. Outliner doesn't seem to remember the credentials, so you have to enter them every time you want to upload. I agree that Omni normal delivers high quality software. I wonder why their synching is such a fail.

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  19. scottybee@gmail.com

    WebDAV server use is spotty for me. Outliner doesn't seem to remember the credentials, so you have to enter them every time you want to upload. I agree that Omni normal delivers high quality software. I wonder why their synching is such a fail.

    Reply
  20. scottybee@gmail.com

    WebDAV server use is spotty for me. Outliner doesn't seem to remember the credentials, so you have to enter them every time you want to upload. I agree that Omni normal delivers high quality software. I wonder why their synching is such a fail.

    Reply
  21. Rich

    It looks great. But one thing I'm eager to find out is – can you import an OPML file from iThoughtsHD and work on it in OO all using the iPad?

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  22. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Is anyone a little disappointed here is no textexpander support? After all, this is a text based outlining app? David I have heard you and perhaps Merlin state that without Textexpander and Dropbox support any app using text is a miss! What do you think about the Textexpander omission?

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  23. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Is anyone a little disappointed here is no textexpander support? After all, this is a text based outlining app? David I have heard you and perhaps Merlin state that without Textexpander and Dropbox support any app using text is a miss! What do you think about the Textexpander omission?

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  24. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Is anyone a little disappointed here is no textexpander support? After all, this is a text based outlining app? David I have heard you and perhaps Merlin state that without Textexpander and Dropbox support any app using text is a miss! What do you think about the Textexpander omission?

    Reply
  25. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Is anyone a little disappointed here is no textexpander support? After all, this is a text based outlining app? David I have heard you and perhaps Merlin state that without Textexpander and Dropbox support any app using text is a miss! What do you think about the Textexpander omission?

    Reply
  26. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Is anyone a little disappointed here is no textexpander support? After all, this is a text based outlining app? David I have heard you and perhaps Merlin state that without Textexpander and Dropbox support any app using text is a miss! What do you think about the Textexpander omission?

    Reply
  27. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Flaky WebDav where there is dropping of address details is easily fixed by adding a trailing slash to the address. Now remembers the DropDav address.

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  28. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Flaky WebDav where there is dropping of address details is easily fixed by adding a trailing slash to the address. Now remembers the DropDav address.

    Reply
  29. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Flaky WebDav where there is dropping of address details is easily fixed by adding a trailing slash to the address. Now remembers the DropDav address.

    Reply
  30. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Flaky WebDav where there is dropping of address details is easily fixed by adding a trailing slash to the address. Now remembers the DropDav address.

    Reply
  31. Nlavitt@gmail.com

    Flaky WebDav where there is dropping of address details is easily fixed by adding a trailing slash to the address. Now remembers the DropDav address.

    Reply
  32. rrlist@mac.com

    Could anyone explain what DrobDAV is? And how does OO compare with CarbonFin Outliner?

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  33. rrlist@mac.com

    Could anyone explain what DrobDAV is? And how does OO compare with CarbonFin Outliner?

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  34. rrlist@mac.com

    Could anyone explain what DrobDAV is? And how does OO compare with CarbonFin Outliner?

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  35. rrlist@mac.com

    Could anyone explain what DrobDAV is? And how does OO compare with CarbonFin Outliner?

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  36. rrlist@mac.com

    Could anyone explain what DrobDAV is? And how does OO compare with CarbonFin Outliner?

    Reply
  37. Happycatmachine

    iThoughts OPML import is excellent. Notes, links all come in just fine.

    Links come in as their own column which is sweet.

    The cover flow system of file management is foolish. Lack of dropbox support is weak and any response from Omni is political. There is no excuse for a lack of dropbox support.

    For a more critical review you're welcome to visit my blog. It's a bit more terse than this one but I won't parrot anything Omni has said.

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  38. shaggy16@gmail.com

    @Rich Importing from iThoughtsHD is fast, easy, and everything is formatted from what I can tell so far.

    @Rick I'm a huge fan of CarbonFin, and this is my first version of OO, so I'm not sure yet which one will win out (or if I'll use both).

    CarbonFin is cheaper, faster, has online syncing (DropBox coming soon), but has almost no formatting options and doesn't handle numbers and formulas.

    The formatting options of OO are blowing my mind, and the HTML exporting is great. Hope that helps.

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  39. shaggy16@gmail.com

    @Rich Importing from iThoughtsHD is fast, easy, and everything is formatted from what I can tell so far.

    @Rick I'm a huge fan of CarbonFin, and this is my first version of OO, so I'm not sure yet which one will win out (or if I'll use both).

    CarbonFin is cheaper, faster, has online syncing (DropBox coming soon), but has almost no formatting options and doesn't handle numbers and formulas.

    The formatting options of OO are blowing my mind, and the HTML exporting is great. Hope that helps.

    Reply
  40. shaggy16@gmail.com

    @Rich Importing from iThoughtsHD is fast, easy, and everything is formatted from what I can tell so far.

    @Rick I'm a huge fan of CarbonFin, and this is my first version of OO, so I'm not sure yet which one will win out (or if I'll use both).

    CarbonFin is cheaper, faster, has online syncing (DropBox coming soon), but has almost no formatting options and doesn't handle numbers and formulas.

    The formatting options of OO are blowing my mind, and the HTML exporting is great. Hope that helps.

    Reply
  41. shaggy16@gmail.com

    @Rich Importing from iThoughtsHD is fast, easy, and everything is formatted from what I can tell so far.

    @Rick I'm a huge fan of CarbonFin, and this is my first version of OO, so I'm not sure yet which one will win out (or if I'll use both).

    CarbonFin is cheaper, faster, has online syncing (DropBox coming soon), but has almost no formatting options and doesn't handle numbers and formulas.

    The formatting options of OO are blowing my mind, and the HTML exporting is great. Hope that helps.

    Reply
  42. shaggy16@gmail.com

    @Rich Importing from iThoughtsHD is fast, easy, and everything is formatted from what I can tell so far.

    @Rick I'm a huge fan of CarbonFin, and this is my first version of OO, so I'm not sure yet which one will win out (or if I'll use both).

    CarbonFin is cheaper, faster, has online syncing (DropBox coming soon), but has almost no formatting options and doesn't handle numbers and formulas.

    The formatting options of OO are blowing my mind, and the HTML exporting is great. Hope that helps.

    Reply
  43. shaggy16@gmail.com

    Although OO doesn't have native Dropbox syncing, it works very well with Dropbox. To save a document to Dropbox you simply email it to your iPad and the "Open In" dialog allows you to select Dropbox.

    To open an OPML or OO file in Dropbox, just open the Dropbox app, and use the "Open In" dialog to select OO.

    It all works surprisingly fast.

    Reply
  44. shaggy16@gmail.com

    Although OO doesn't have native Dropbox syncing, it works very well with Dropbox. To save a document to Dropbox you simply email it to your iPad and the "Open In" dialog allows you to select Dropbox.

    To open an OPML or OO file in Dropbox, just open the Dropbox app, and use the "Open In" dialog to select OO.

    It all works surprisingly fast.

    Reply
  45. shaggy16@gmail.com

    Although OO doesn't have native Dropbox syncing, it works very well with Dropbox. To save a document to Dropbox you simply email it to your iPad and the "Open In" dialog allows you to select Dropbox.

    To open an OPML or OO file in Dropbox, just open the Dropbox app, and use the "Open In" dialog to select OO.

    It all works surprisingly fast.

    Reply
  46. shaggy16@gmail.com

    Although OO doesn't have native Dropbox syncing, it works very well with Dropbox. To save a document to Dropbox you simply email it to your iPad and the "Open In" dialog allows you to select Dropbox.

    To open an OPML or OO file in Dropbox, just open the Dropbox app, and use the "Open In" dialog to select OO.

    It all works surprisingly fast.

    Reply
  47. shaggy16@gmail.com

    Although OO doesn't have native Dropbox syncing, it works very well with Dropbox. To save a document to Dropbox you simply email it to your iPad and the "Open In" dialog allows you to select Dropbox.

    To open an OPML or OO file in Dropbox, just open the Dropbox app, and use the "Open In" dialog to select OO.

    It all works surprisingly fast.

    Reply
  48. genpubdc@gmail.com

    one thing I hope they add to future is the ability to incorporate text and writing/drawing. I really need an ipad program that does this with a nice looking UI and can do this in an organized fashion.

    As it is, I like your review, David, but for my purposes, I think wunderlist or Taskpaper are better alternatives.

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  49. genpubdc@gmail.com

    one thing I hope they add to future is the ability to incorporate text and writing/drawing. I really need an ipad program that does this with a nice looking UI and can do this in an organized fashion.

    As it is, I like your review, David, but for my purposes, I think wunderlist or Taskpaper are better alternatives.

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  50. genpubdc@gmail.com

    one thing I hope they add to future is the ability to incorporate text and writing/drawing. I really need an ipad program that does this with a nice looking UI and can do this in an organized fashion.

    As it is, I like your review, David, but for my purposes, I think wunderlist or Taskpaper are better alternatives.

    Reply
  51. genpubdc@gmail.com

    one thing I hope they add to future is the ability to incorporate text and writing/drawing. I really need an ipad program that does this with a nice looking UI and can do this in an organized fashion.

    As it is, I like your review, David, but for my purposes, I think wunderlist or Taskpaper are better alternatives.

    Reply
  52. genpubdc@gmail.com

    one thing I hope they add to future is the ability to incorporate text and writing/drawing. I really need an ipad program that does this with a nice looking UI and can do this in an organized fashion.

    As it is, I like your review, David, but for my purposes, I think wunderlist or Taskpaper are better alternatives.

    Reply
  53. jimd.rol@gmail.com

    Does the beta sync service provided by Omni address/solve any of the concerns about lack of dropbox support? I thought I read somewhere that this service works for both O'outline and O'focus?

    Reply
  54. jimd.rol@gmail.com

    Does the beta sync service provided by Omni address/solve any of the concerns about lack of dropbox support? I thought I read somewhere that this service works for both O'outline and O'focus?

    Reply
  55. jimd.rol@gmail.com

    Does the beta sync service provided by Omni address/solve any of the concerns about lack of dropbox support? I thought I read somewhere that this service works for both O'outline and O'focus?

    Reply
  56. jimd.rol@gmail.com

    Does the beta sync service provided by Omni address/solve any of the concerns about lack of dropbox support? I thought I read somewhere that this service works for both O'outline and O'focus?

    Reply
  57. jimd.rol@gmail.com

    Does the beta sync service provided by Omni address/solve any of the concerns about lack of dropbox support? I thought I read somewhere that this service works for both O'outline and O'focus?

    Reply
  58. rrlist@mac.com

    @Justin Luey Sure does help. Thanks. I've been intending to modify my policy of buying every app that might be useful, but I think I might have to delay the modification!

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  59. rrlist@mac.com

    @Justin Luey Sure does help. Thanks. I've been intending to modify my policy of buying every app that might be useful, but I think I might have to delay the modification!

    Reply
  60. rrlist@mac.com

    @Justin Luey Sure does help. Thanks. I've been intending to modify my policy of buying every app that might be useful, but I think I might have to delay the modification!

    Reply
  61. rrlist@mac.com

    @Justin Luey Sure does help. Thanks. I've been intending to modify my policy of buying every app that might be useful, but I think I might have to delay the modification!

    Reply
  62. rrlist@mac.com

    @Justin Luey Sure does help. Thanks. I've been intending to modify my policy of buying every app that might be useful, but I think I might have to delay the modification!

    Reply
  63. scottybee@gmail.com

    Yesterday DropDAV sent users an email which announced that they will be charging *all* users $5/month. Not at all worth it for me and seems like a dumb move on their part.

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  64. scottybee@gmail.com

    Yesterday DropDAV sent users an email which announced that they will be charging *all* users $5/month. Not at all worth it for me and seems like a dumb move on their part.

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  65. scottybee@gmail.com

    Yesterday DropDAV sent users an email which announced that they will be charging *all* users $5/month. Not at all worth it for me and seems like a dumb move on their part.

    Reply
  66. scottybee@gmail.com

    Yesterday DropDAV sent users an email which announced that they will be charging *all* users $5/month. Not at all worth it for me and seems like a dumb move on their part.

    Reply
  67. scottybee@gmail.com

    Yesterday DropDAV sent users an email which announced that they will be charging *all* users $5/month. Not at all worth it for me and seems like a dumb move on their part.

    Reply
  68. Bob Beerbower

    In iOS4 the open in menu in the mail app seems a bit hit and miss on which apps are available. From what I could gather iOS selects up to 10 apps depending on what documents the app can read and what order the apps were installed in. As far as I know there is no way to add or delete selections from this menu, hopefully this will be addressed in iOS 5. I did find a forum post were some one had some success with deleting and reinstalling apps, but that's more effort than I'm willing to throw at it.

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  69. Gustav

    I really wish people would stop harping on DropBox. Not only is it insecure, if you read and understand their reasons for not supporting it at this time, you'd agree that it's not a good idea.

    @Scott, so what if DropDAV is charging now? They should as it costs them money to provide that service – if it's as important as people here claim, a measly $5/month shouldn't bother anyone.

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  70. nlavitt@gmail.com

    Well Gustav, your post comes after the security scares of late, however, the DropBox issue is a valid point that I think may have been somewhat solved by the events of the past month or so. The problem is, how do we get our working outlines out of OO for iPad to Mac etc without the clumsiness of the sandbox the files now sit in. DropBox with DropDav was a solution (I agree, if you are to use it, $60 a year is not so much to pay). However, I think Omni have been waiting for iCloud. This service should make this process transparent. I imagine working with outlines on the iPad and Mac seamlessly via iCloud. This glue (as David calls it) is the missing ingredient. In mean time however, DropBox remains an important player, warts and all.

    I personally think that Omni bet on iCloud being their glue and built with the Apple file management interface for this reason. It should be simple for them to implement the iCloud API's into OO and OG. By December we should have the solution.

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  71. nlavitt@gmail.com

    Well Gustav, your post comes after the security scares of late, however, the DropBox issue is a valid point that I think may have been somewhat solved by the events of the past month or so. The problem is, how do we get our working outlines out of OO for iPad to Mac etc without the clumsiness of the sandbox the files now sit in. DropBox with DropDav was a solution (I agree, if you are to use it, $60 a year is not so much to pay). However, I think Omni have been waiting for iCloud. This service should make this process transparent. I imagine working with outlines on the iPad and Mac seamlessly via iCloud. This glue (as David calls it) is the missing ingredient. In mean time however, DropBox remains an important player, warts and all.

    I personally think that Omni bet on iCloud being their glue and built with the Apple file management interface for this reason. It should be simple for them to implement the iCloud API's into OO and OG. By December we should have the solution.

    Reply
  72. nlavitt@gmail.com

    Well Gustav, your post comes after the security scares of late, however, the DropBox issue is a valid point that I think may have been somewhat solved by the events of the past month or so. The problem is, how do we get our working outlines out of OO for iPad to Mac etc without the clumsiness of the sandbox the files now sit in. DropBox with DropDav was a solution (I agree, if you are to use it, $60 a year is not so much to pay). However, I think Omni have been waiting for iCloud. This service should make this process transparent. I imagine working with outlines on the iPad and Mac seamlessly via iCloud. This glue (as David calls it) is the missing ingredient. In mean time however, DropBox remains an important player, warts and all.

    I personally think that Omni bet on iCloud being their glue and built with the Apple file management interface for this reason. It should be simple for them to implement the iCloud API's into OO and OG. By December we should have the solution.

    Reply
  73. nlavitt@gmail.com

    Well Gustav, your post comes after the security scares of late, however, the DropBox issue is a valid point that I think may have been somewhat solved by the events of the past month or so. The problem is, how do we get our working outlines out of OO for iPad to Mac etc without the clumsiness of the sandbox the files now sit in. DropBox with DropDav was a solution (I agree, if you are to use it, $60 a year is not so much to pay). However, I think Omni have been waiting for iCloud. This service should make this process transparent. I imagine working with outlines on the iPad and Mac seamlessly via iCloud. This glue (as David calls it) is the missing ingredient. In mean time however, DropBox remains an important player, warts and all.

    I personally think that Omni bet on iCloud being their glue and built with the Apple file management interface for this reason. It should be simple for them to implement the iCloud API's into OO and OG. By December we should have the solution.

    Reply
  74. nlavitt@gmail.com

    Well Gustav, your post comes after the security scares of late, however, the DropBox issue is a valid point that I think may have been somewhat solved by the events of the past month or so. The problem is, how do we get our working outlines out of OO for iPad to Mac etc without the clumsiness of the sandbox the files now sit in. DropBox with DropDav was a solution (I agree, if you are to use it, $60 a year is not so much to pay). However, I think Omni have been waiting for iCloud. This service should make this process transparent. I imagine working with outlines on the iPad and Mac seamlessly via iCloud. This glue (as David calls it) is the missing ingredient. In mean time however, DropBox remains an important player, warts and all.

    I personally think that Omni bet on iCloud being their glue and built with the Apple file management interface for this reason. It should be simple for them to implement the iCloud API's into OO and OG. By December we should have the solution.

    Reply
  75. scottybee@gmail.com

    I agree with Neil. Omni was likely waiting for iCloud, but the current solution is sucky and it's not a good customer experience for us to pay $20 for the OO app and then have to pay and additional $60 per year to another third party to make OO truly functional.

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  76. scottybee@gmail.com

    I agree with Neil. Omni was likely waiting for iCloud, but the current solution is sucky and it's not a good customer experience for us to pay $20 for the OO app and then have to pay and additional $60 per year to another third party to make OO truly functional.

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  77. scottybee@gmail.com

    I agree with Neil. Omni was likely waiting for iCloud, but the current solution is sucky and it's not a good customer experience for us to pay $20 for the OO app and then have to pay and additional $60 per year to another third party to make OO truly functional.

    Reply
  78. scottybee@gmail.com

    I agree with Neil. Omni was likely waiting for iCloud, but the current solution is sucky and it's not a good customer experience for us to pay $20 for the OO app and then have to pay and additional $60 per year to another third party to make OO truly functional.

    Reply
  79. scottybee@gmail.com

    I agree with Neil. Omni was likely waiting for iCloud, but the current solution is sucky and it's not a good customer experience for us to pay $20 for the OO app and then have to pay and additional $60 per year to another third party to make OO truly functional.

    Reply

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